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Postby lotsofphil » Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:51 pm

Hell broth: 9, 10, 10, 11, 12 (so looks like no flat bonus; at most 28%, ruled out by hi mein data)
So hell broth is definitely unaffected.

Hell ramen: 33, 34, 36x2, 37x2
Cold hi mein: 33x4, 34x7, 35x5, 36x4

All without milk.
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Re: Saucemaven Spading

Postby lotsofphil » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:01 pm

Wiki says hi meins have a base range of 21-28. But I have (so far) 20 data points and only a range of 4 advs.
It might be that the adv yield changed... in 2010? http://forums.kingdomofloathing.com/vb/ ... p?t=183720
Or this trivial: January 09, 2011 - The range of possible adventures you can get from a lot of foods has been tightened.

Ate 23 hi-meins w/o milk w/o saucemaven:
23x4
24x6
25x7
26x6

I will edit the wiki to reflect the range 23-26.
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Re: Saucemaven Spading

Postby lotsofphil » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:10 pm

Ate a bunch of hell ramen and I think the range on them has decreased, too:
23x5
24x7
25x5
26x7
27x9

So that is 33 data points. If the range is 22-28, then I should see a 23-27 value 5/7 of the time. (5/7)^33 = 1/66400.
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Re: Saucemaven Spading

Postby lotsofphil » Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:45 pm

Pastamancer with Saucemaven HC permed, hell ramen, no milk, 34 adv.
Sauceror, hell ramen: 33, 34.

So this means that Saucemaven is a flat +10 for Saucerors.

PMs could get anywhere from 7-10.
Non-myst, who knows?
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Re: Saucemaven Spading

Postby lotsofphil » Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:15 pm

Calaveras w/ saucemaven: 30
Inconnu w/ saucemaven: 32, 33, 35
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Re: Saucemaven Spading

Postby lotsofphil » Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:29 pm

2 more inconnu w/ saucemaven: 34, 36
Fishy lasagna gave 14, so no effect.
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Re: Saucemaven Spading

Postby Darzil » Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:53 am

Turtle Tamer w/Saucemaven

Spooky Hi Mein - 28 adventures
Hell Ramen - 30 adventures

So
Hi Mein = +2-5 adv
Hell Ramen = +3-7 adv

Can be +1/fullness or +3-5 adv.

At this stage I guess it's +10 adv for Myst, +5 adv otherwise on reagent pasta and hi mein ?

Edit - I also guess that the ranges will have been tightened on other of the reagent pasta, lo mein, chow mein etc.
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Re: Saucemaven Spading

Postby lotsofphil » Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:26 pm

Darzil wrote:Can be +1/fullness or +3-5 adv.

At this stage I guess it's +10 adv for Myst, +5 adv otherwise on reagent pasta and hi mein ?

That seems most likely to me. I am quite confident in the flat +10 adv for Sauce. My one PM data point is +7-11. Shouldn't take too many more to find out definitively.

Edit - I also guess that the ranges will have been tightened on other of the reagent pasta, lo mein, chow mein etc.

I've got a bunch of data points on fettucini inconnu. Will post them later. I don't think I'll re-examine the others (lo mein, chow mein).
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Re: Saucemaven Spading

Postby lotsofphil » Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:42 pm

http://forums.kingdomofloathing.com/vb/ ... tcount=275

A 35 from a milked hi mein, eaten by a Seal Clubber. If TT and SC are the same (likely), that means at least +4, at most +5.
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Re: Saucemaven Spading

Postby lotsofphil » Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:37 pm

Ate 35 fettucini inconnu:
22x6
23x7
24x11
25x4
26
27x6
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Re: Saucemaven Spading

Postby Darzil » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:46 pm

So tightened up by 1 turn on top and bottom, and slightly less good than Hell Ramen as before. I guess the other reagent pasta will be too.
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Re: Saucemaven Spading

Postby greycat » Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:06 pm

As Pastamancer, with Got Milk & Saucemaven: spooky hi meins: 38, 41, 39.

As Sauceror, with Got Milk & Saucemaven: sleazy hi meins: 39, 41, 38.
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Re: Saucemaven Spading

Postby lotsofphil » Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:08 pm

That 41 adv yield with milk as a PM means PM is +10 adv, too. To recap:

Sauceror and Pastamancer, +10 adv
Non-myst (presumably), either +4 or +5 adv
Saucy foods: hi meins, hell ramen, spaghetti con calaveras, gnocchetti, fettucini, spaghetti with skullheads

So the only open questions are:
Is non-myst +4 or +5?
Are TT, SC, AT and DB all the same?
Are there any other foods this bonus applies to? Not hell broth, not chow mein, not lasagna.
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Re: Saucemaven Spading

Postby Darzil » Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:41 pm

SC w/Saucemaven:
Hell Ramen 29 (35 with Milk)
Spooky Hi Mein 29 (34 with Milk)

So +2 to +6 for Hell Ramen, +3 to +6 for Spooky Hi Mein.

Looks to be the same sort of range, but doesn't help pin it down.
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Re: Saucemaven Spading

Postby greycat » Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:47 pm

DB with Saucemaven, Got Milk. Sleazy hi meins: 33, 34, 34. (Without Saucemaven, expect 28-31. Ergo anywhere from +3 to +5.)

Next day, same thing: 34, 34, 36. This confirms +5 for sleazy hi meins as a DB.

Seal Clubber, Saucemaven, Got Milk, spooky hi meins: 33, 34. (Redundant data is redundant.)

Seal Clubber, Saucemaven, Got Milk, fettucini Inconnu: 35, 33. (Without Saucemaven, expect 28-33. Ergo anywhere from +2 to +5.)

Accordion Thief, Saucemaven, Got Milk, fetuccini Inconnu: 36. (Anywhere from +3 to +8.)
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Re: Saucemaven Spading

Postby lotsofphil » Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:50 pm

This can move to Completed Spading if anyone tidies up.
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Re: Saucemaven Spading

Postby Haleuth » Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:03 am

Pastamancer with Saucemaven and Got Milk.

Cold Hi Mein: 36, 34, 36 adventures.

Eating 3 cold hi mein...
You gain 36 Adventures
You gain 72 Strongness
You gain 38 Magicalness
You gain a Mysticality point!
You gain 16 Roguishness
You acquire an effect: Cold Breath (5)
You gain 5 Fullness
You gain 32 Mana Points
You lose some of an effect: Got Milk (-5)
You gain 34 Adventures
You gain 73 Strongness
You gain a Muscle point!
You gain 36 Wizardliness
You gain 15 Cheek
You gain a Moxie point!
You acquire an effect: Cold Breath (5)
You gain 5 Fullness
You gain 24 Mana Points
You lose some of an effect: Got Milk (-5)
You gain 36 Adventures
You gain 71 Strongness
You gain 37 Enchantedness
You gain 19 Roguishness
You acquire an effect: Cold Breath (5)
You gain 5 Fullness
You gain 33 Mana Points
You lose an effect: Got Milk (-5)
Finished eating 3 cold hi mein.
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